I stayed in the back and let the Stormcloaks take care of him and the surrender scene played out like it's supposed to. Indigno View Profile View Posts. Sorry for necro, but I had the exact same problem and found no other fix or more recent thread online, but i figured out a solution and wanted to share it for the benefit of others who may have this problem: When you enter dragonsreach, get balgruuf in visual make sure he's alive, this won't work on a corpse and pull up the console.
Select Balgruuf and type isessential. Last edited by Indigno ; 29 Apr, pm. Per page: 15 30 Date Posted: 24 Jan, pm. Posts: 7. Discussions Rules and Guidelines. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic harassment, fighting, or rude posts. All rights reserved. Now, wait until he's inside! Caught like a bear in a trap Zok frini grind ko grah drun viiki, Dovahkiin. I forget. You do not have the dovah speech.
I salut your, hmm, low cunning in devising such a grahmindol - strategem. Farengar: "Incredible! I would be most appreciative if you would permit me to perform some, ah, tests on you. Purely in the interests of the advancement of knowledge.
Do not test my promise to the Dovahkiin. Most of them are hardly painful at all to a large dragon such as yourself.
Even for you. What are you doing back there? Enough, fool! Whiterun Guard: "Get ready to open the trap! This seems like a really bad idea to me. This is all part of the Dragonborn's plan.
Hrongar: "Have you reconsidered my idea? I won't leave Whiterun defenseless, even for a day. The Companions can help protect the city, and the Emperor will be in our debt.
We are short on guards as it is! If we lose half our men, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild will have the run of the city. The Stormcloaks will be the least of our worries! The answer is no, I tell you! Now stop pestering me with your war-mongering!
Irileth: "Balgruuf, did you slip out again last night for a drink at the Bannered Mare? Yes, I went out for a pint or two. What of it? You should have told me first. I won't apologize for talking to my people.
You can't protect me every moment of the day. Proventus: "My lord, our provisions are running dangerously low. Our stores of meat, wine, and grain are all but depleted. That's your job as Steward, isn't it? Why do you trouble me with these details? I'll need more coin if I'm to provision us properly.
I can scarcely afford to pay the guards, and we need every one of them in these troubled times. You'll have to make do with what we have, Proventus. Balgruuf: "I won't say it again, Vignar; Talos worship is forbidden.
It's the Empire's law, and we're still a part of the Empire. A sword stained red with Nord blood. Is this what our people fought and died for? To forsake our most beloved ancestor and divine? You're either a Nord who respects our traditions, or you're not. If not, it isn't me you'll have to answer to, but the people of this city and this Hold. Note: the preceding conversation never actually occurs during the game, as Balgruuf and Vignar never have the chance to speak of it. This section contains bugs related to Balgruuf the Greater.
Before adding a bug to this list, consider the following:. Elder Scrolls Explore. Elder Scrolls Online. Events Characters Factions Locations Concepts. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? Balgruuf the Greater. Edit source History Talk 4. Do you like this video? Play Sound. For other uses, see Jarl Balgruuf. No doubt General Tullius and his friends in the Empire will tell you that I owe them my loyalty, and perhaps I do. Ulfric Stormcloak would say that I owe my allegiance to the Nord people as they fight for Skyrim's independence.
Perhaps this is also true. The day might come when I am forced to draw my sword for one side or the other. But that day has not come yet. And also because he knew he could. Even now, my court wizard, Farengar, continues his research into ways we might drive back these We must also have ample reserves of water to combat the fires that will surely spread after an attack.
But our greatest weapon? For if we cannot kill the beast, we must at least have the tenacity to drive it back. Until brave heroes step forward to destroy these monsters, that is the best we can do. Alvor Or "Gerdur" if Ralof is followed instead of Hadvar.
The smith, isn't he? Reliable, solid fellow. Not prone to flights of fancy And you're sure Helgen was destroyed by a dragon? This wasn't some Stormcloak raid gone wrong? Or "Gerdur? Owns the lumber mill, if I'm not mistaken. Pillar of the community.
I had a great view while the Imperials were trying to cut off my head. You're certainly But it's none of my concern who the Imperials want to execute. Especially now. What I want to know is what exactly happened at Helgen. I saw the dragon burn Helgen to the ground. About the dragon attack. Then the dragon attacked. And last I saw it was heading this way.
Was the dragon there? But there must be more to it than that. What do you know about the Dragonborn? The Greybeards really were summoning you. They live in seclusion high on the slopes of the Throat of the World. If you really are Dragonborn, they can teach you how to use your gift. The Greybeards seem to think the same thing. It was a mighty deed. You've earned a place of honor among the heroes of Whiterun. Did something Wulfharth was Dragonborn.
Talos, too - the founder of the Empire, back in the good old days. In the very oldest tales, back from when there still were dragons in Skyrim, the Dragonborn would slay dragons and steal their power.
They live up on top of the Throat of the World. If you're really Dragonborn, they'll want to talk to you. In the old stories, they always summon the Dragonborn for training. But only the Greybeards study the Way of the Voice any more. If you can Shout I need to trap a dragon in your palace. I thought you asked me to help you trap a dragon in my palace.
Persuade "I'm sorry, but I can't do it. We'll just have to keep fighting the dragons as best we can. You want me to let a dragon into the heart of my city, with the threat of war on my doorstep? The risk is too great. Alduin has returned. The World-Eater himself? Doesn't his return mean it's the end times? Now, what's this nonsense about trapping a dragon in my palace? And I will. But I need your help first. Ulfric and General Tullius are both just waiting for me to make a wrong move.
Do you think they will sit idle while a dragon is slaughtering my men and burning my city? No, I can't risk weakening the city while we are under threat of enemy attack. I'm sorry. But getting both sides to agree to a truce will be difficult at this point.
The bitterness has gone too deep. They are respected by all Nords. High Hrothgar is neutral territory. If the Greybeards were willing to host a peace council I'll talk to Arngeir about hosting a peace council.
Maybe you can stop the dragons - and this war into the bargain. It's my destiny to stop him. That's good enough for me. Although I never thought to put the tale to the test. They say he Shouted it into submission in single combat atop Mount Anthor and brought it back to Whiterun.
Numinex was the dragon's name. That's his skull decorating the main hall. It's the only way to stop the dragons. Just say the word. The great chains are oiled. We wait on your word. I'll be famouser than Olaf One-Eye! Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. The Jarl's wizard just up and died on me? Ask Question. Asked 9 years, 6 months ago.
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Anderson Anderson 1, 1 1 gold badge 15 15 silver badges 16 16 bronze badges. I honestly can't remember, but this sounds like a very plausible explanation, without resorting to a bug or glitch. Sign up or log in Sign up using Google. Sign up using Facebook. Sign up using Email and Password.
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