He does not mince words when asked what or whom he looked to when preparing to play Gambol. As for where the film rates in his book, White says he is extremely proud of the work everyone put in on the Batman film. That is a dark idea. If that happened in reality, that comes from a very troubled place. So, psychologically, I think that is just great. Sign up for THR news straight to your inbox every day. July 16, am. Logo text. Ledger was nothing if not giving of the actors around him, White recalls from his time on The Dark Knight.
Jon M. He was used to being in charge and powerful. This, coupled with his arrogance, helps to lead to his ironic downfall. Since the arrival of Batman , Gambol had made a truce with Maroni and the Chechen, and formed an alliance with the other crime families as Batman had become a threat. He acquired an immediate hatred of the Joker , who arrived unannounced to a business meeting between the mob and repeatedly insulted him. Gambol was also displeased with the fact that the Joker stole money from the mob's bank , with his anger rising when the latter implied that he used the stolen money to create his "cheap" suit.
The Joker also managed to kill one of Gambol's guards by slamming his head into a pencil, calling it a "magic trick". That's it. It also had the entire "Tryouts" scene, which lasted nearly 12 minutes.
Making the Joker's comment "make it short" even more funny. These scenes cannot be found anywhere on youtube or any of the dvd versions I have seen, sad to say : The tryouts scene was amazing, and I have been searching for it ever since, to no avail. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top.
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Chris B. Behrens Chris B. Behrens A knife in the mouth could go in any direction. Straight up into the palate would probably kill you, or at least make you pass out fairly quickly before dying later. Add a comment. So if Batman's "one" rule was simply to not kill people, then he'd have to be significantly more timid and by extension, less effective in his actions to stop criminals. The majority of his actions in these films could very well lead to people dying, even if it wasn't his direct intention.
For example, Batman throws Maroni off a building from about 3 stories up. Batman was "counting on" the fall not killing Maroni, but people have died from much shorter falls. It's likely because they wanted eyes on the Joker at all times. There didn't appear to be any cameras inside the interrogation room just the two-way mirror that was smashed.
It's also possible they didn't want him to escape through the broken mirror. He is seen later on in the film, with a bandage on his neck, watching the news beside Gordon as Joker makes his threat to blow up a hospital.
Stephens also appears when Gordon destroys the Bat-Signal. Harvey Dent is kidnapped and tied up. He falls over while trying to escape, which knocks over a gas barrel, spilling its contents and splashing some on his face. As Batman saves Dent from the building rigged by the Joker, it explodes.
Both narrowly escape, but Dent is burned as fire shoots out from the explosion and ignites the fuel. In the hospital, Dent demands that Gordon say the nickname given to him Dent when he was working with Internal Affairs. Gordon replies, "Two-Face. Grief-stricken by Rachel's death, traumatized by his injures, frustrated with criminal injustice in Gotham, and stripped of his vanity, he becomes a callous and deranged vigilante.
The comics have a different origin for Harvey Dent. Dent gives testimony in court against a mobster named Salvatore Maroni, who appears in this movie. Maroni tosses a bottle of acid at Dent's face. Batman comes in to prevent the throw, but he only succeeds in saving half of Harvey's face.
Dent later steals Maroni's good luck coin, and uses it to decide if he will be good or evil. This was depicted in the original Detective Comics. Maroni still scars Dent, but Sal has help from a corrupt assistant DA. He manages to smuggle the acid in a bottle he claims contains antacids to treat a nonexistent stomach ulcer. Harvey inherits the coin from his abusive father In the film, Harvey's coin also comes from his father, but there's no mention of whether he was abusive. In the film, Maroni still attempts to have Dent killed in the courtroom, but employs a ultimately defective gun instead of the acid; this was possibly included as a nod to the original comic version.
The Joker has a twisted set of principles. He will twist his words so people will believe him, but the result will not favor anyone but him. He deceives the mob because he is disgusted by how they only care about money and not the chaos and anarchy he loves so dearly. For example, he finds the money as he promised the mob he would. Then he sets fire to "his half. He told Batman where both Rachel and Harvey were being held hostage as he said he would, but he switched the addresses.
He tells Dent that the kidnapping was "nothing personal" and we later find out that it was the Joker's intention to lead Dent specifically to insanity. Photo here. It has eight rows and 48 columns making a total of screens.
No; it looks like him, but it's a different actor. It is also not Thomas Schiff, the schizophrenic Harvey Dent threatens to kill earlier in the movie. It's just a random actor who is given a quick close up. Gordon says, "Five dead, two of them cops. Christopher Nolan, when asked about an answer during a Blu-ray Live Event, responded, "I will answer this question one day. But not today. One cop radios a second cop, who is guarding Dent's room.
The guard cop does not reply, so the first cop goes in to check out the situation. The Joker shoots him and presumably has already shot the guard. That's two cops right there and it's possible that Gordon assumed that Two-Face killed them when he left the hospital not realizing it was The Joker.
Detective Wuertz. Killed in the bar. Detective Anna Ramirez. While Two-Face lets her live, he knocks her out. She would have been missing.
Gordon, knowing she's the one who drove Rachel, might have assumed she was dead. Or, less likely, Dent inadvertently killed her-although he intends to let her live, she could have been severely injured e.
Maroni's bodyguard. As soon as Maroni walks out of the building, and then walks around to get in the passenger side of his car, look to the left of the screen on the driver's side of the car.
The bodyguard standing there is grabbed and pulled off-screen. It's very fast and very quiet so don't take your eye off that guy. Harvey could've also simply knocked him out in order to quickly get into Maroni's limo, and Maroni was too distracted to notice him doing that.
Maroni's Driver. Shot by Two-Face while driving along the scrapyard. Salvatore Maroni. Not certain. Two-Face flips his coin and spares Maroni's life. He flips his coin again and tells Maroni that his driver isn't as lucky as he is. Two-Face puts his seat belt on and shoots the driver, causing him to crash and flip the car.
While Two-Face walks away from the crash unscathed, we never find out what happened to Maroni. Most likely he was either killed in the crash because he wasn't wearing his seat belt, or left Gotham and went into hiding afterwards. Either way, he isn't in The Dark Knight Rises.
Harvey Dent. Gordon could have meant Dent himself, because in The Dark Knight Rises the public is under the impression that Batman murdered Harvey Dent in cold blood. It is never mentioned who else that Batman had supposedly killed.
A far-fetched theory, but here it is. When Two-Face went into the bar to kill Wuertz, the bartender went to the bathroom. Seconds later, we hear Two-Face walk out of the bathroom. Two-Face might have also killed the bartender to get rid of a witness. Note that Two-Face always obeys the flip of his coin no matter who the person is or what they might have done wrong.
If this did happen, the reasons the scene might have been cut are: it was too violent for a PG film; it was too early for Two-Face to kill an innocent person it would have been his first murder ; Christopher Nolan wanted him to be a tragic character and therefore wanted to focus on him taking revenge on the people who ruined his life, rather than on him killing an innocent bystander. Cop guarding Gordon's apartment. Also a bit far-fetched, but when forced to call Barbara Gordon, Ramirez refers to cops that are guarding the Gordons, and tells Barbara that they're not to be trusted.
After letting Ramirez off, Dent might have killed them in order to ensure that they didn't stop the Gordons from leaving. Note that during the phone call, Ramirez stated that she could distract the cops long enough for the Gordons to leave-but Dent then strikes her and presumably knocks her unconscious. If so, then Gordon is not referring to Wuertz-implying that Gordon did not know Wuertz had been killed.
However, since Gordon was in the observation room during the interrogation scene, where the Joker told Batman, "You didn't disappoint; you let five people die," fans could argue it could be the five people the Joker killed: 1 Brian Douglas, "a Son of Batman," 2 Judge Surrillo, the judge presiding over the mob trail, 3 Commissioner Loeb, the man in charge of Gotham P.
The flaw in this argument, as far as comparing this to Gordon's final statement to Batman after Dent's death, is that it's a matter of record that the Joker killed these other people or had them killed in league with Maroni, and Batman's "letting" them die was simply a matter of Batman not turning himself in and revealing his true identity, at which point the Joker would have retreated though Rachel thinks not.
Gordon is referring to people who have died after Dent's disappearance, and whose deaths might be traced to Dent. And remember that by that time, Rachel was already dead, which would have upped the Joker's death count to six. Another possibility is that the deaths were off-screen in some way. The Joker says that he wanted to see what Batman would do, after putting out his ultimatum to turn in his mask, or "people will die".
So, the five deaths in question would be those that took place after this happens. At this point of the story, the five dead, then, would be five of the police who were escorting Dent to the County Jail. The two guys in the helicopter, the cop the Joker shot in the face from his truck, and presumably two more from the chase scene likely the two in the car he shot with the RPG.
The Joker says that Batman let these people die because he didn't really turn himself in, and the Joker knew it. This would also explain how all the dead would be friends to the police. The obvious answer is that he had been spending the last six months since the ending of Batman Begins carefully planning out everything so that he would be ready.
For example, the Joker blows up a hospital. Most likely, he had set the explosives in place long before. This is a trait very typical of the comic book Joker—he's able to prepare a crime for a long time and yet carry it out before anyone realizes what he's up to. He then "predicts" a crime that has already been committed. Another possibility, since Maroni's and the mob's goals mesh well with the Joker's social experiments, is that he gets a considerable amount of assistance from the mob after the Chechen puts out the word that he should be hired to get rid of Batman.
Two-Face threatens to kill Commissioner Gordon's son, James Jr Nathan Gamble , while forcing Gordon to assure his son that everything is going to be all right, just as Dent had to do the same for Rachel while knowing it wasn't.
Suddenly, Batman appears and tries to talk him out of it, explaining that the Joker chose Dent in order to prove that even the best of men could fall. Two-Face shoots Batman, who falls to the floor, then turns his gun on James Jr.
Suddenly, Batman wooshes up, grabs James Jr. The fall kills Two-Face and causes Batman to fall, too. Gordon rushes down to see if Batman is all right. As he picks himself off the ground, Batman tells Gordon that the Joker cannot win and offers to take upon himself the responsibility for the five people 'two of them cops' that Two-Face killed.
Batman then flees from the scene. Flash-forwards are shown of Gordon praising Dent at a memorial service, Lucius erasing the cell phone grid, Alfred burning Rachel's letter to Bruce, and Gordon smashing the Bat-Signal. The final scene returns to Gordon and his son standing over Two-Face's body. James Jr asks his father why Batman is running away, because he didn't do anything wrong, and Gordon replies: Because we have to chase him He's the hero Gotham deserves but not the one it needs right now.
So, we'll hunt him because he can take it He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. He survives. He's the first hostage Batman tackles when he flies into the construction building.
Batman tells Engel to stay down and Engel nods. That is the last we see of him. The SWAT team goes inside to take out all the clowns, but they were actually hostages dressed up as the Joker's men. Batman stops the SWAT team from killing any of them.
He was tied up on top of the money pile that the Joker slid down. He is never seen being taken down before the Joker lights the pile on fire. We can assume he was burned up with the money. The scene finishes before the fire reached Lau, so no screams or man-on-fire is shown, probably in an attempt to keep the film's rating at PG At a pivotal point in the film, Batman is given two addresses and told that he can only save one of the people, those two people being either Harvey Dent or Rachel Dawes.
Batman leaves the station and says he is going for Rachel. Commissioner Gordon leaves the police station to rescue Harvey. One interpretation: The Joker, knowing Batman will choose Rachel "The way you threw yourself after her" suggests the Joker was aware of Batman's affection for Rachel , has lied.
He switched the addresses. Thus, while Batman intended to save Rachel, he "saves" Harvey instead. The Joker needs Harvey alive for his "ace in the hole".
Meanwhile, the police, having heard the Joker's confession, race to save the other party. But for some reason perhaps the Bat-Pod is faster than a squad car, or one address is farther than the other , they don't arrive in time, and Rachel dies in the explosion.
The goal is that Harvey would survive, Rachel would die, both would talk before the end, and both had the potential to be saved though the Joker was able to time the events so that only Batman would save one person quickly enough so Harvey would think Gordon had failed him.
Another interpretation: The Joker had switched the addresses knowing that either outcome would benefit him. If Batman had made the "right" choice and gone for Harvey thus finding Rachel , Harvey would die; and Gotham would be left without its "White Knight". The public would hold Batman responsible, turning them against their protector.
This is less likely, as Harvey's death probably meant very little to the Joker: being the mastermind he was, Harvey's death would be an easy task for him, but corrupting him beforehand takes more skill, with greater final effect: the final scene of the film shows Harvey although dead being presented as Gotham's Saviour, meaning the idea he lived for could continue.
Knowing that he had killed "five [people], two of them cops" would undo that work, so Harvey had to be around to commit the murders. It is said at the end of the movie that Rachel died at 52nd street, where dent was supposed to be.
So the joker switched the addresses. There is no definitive answer. Some say Batman broke his code; others say he did not. The answers hinge on interpretation of intent and outcome. Some argue that even if Batman accidentally kills one of his foes, it is still a violation of the code, while others argue that an accidental killing does not count. One interpretation: Batman did break his one rule in order to save Gordon's son, which is what the Joker prophesied earlier in the film by saying, "Tonight you're going to break your one rule.
Batman beat him and showed that the Joker couldn't force him to break his rule. Later, Batman chooses to break his rule by killing Two-Face. The moral is that Batman won't be forced into doing anything by a maniac. He chooses to do the right thing even though people might hate him for it.
Batman's choice was to save Gordon's son and let Two-Face fall or vice-versa. Batman chose to let Two-Face fall; but he didn't kill him. Had he stopped the train, the water under Wayne Enterprises would have been vaporized as well, with catastrophic results. With regards to the next question, there were still innocent lives at stake when he chose not to save Ra's. In the Joker's case, there was no imminent collateral damage for Batman to consider. Therefore, he could safely apprehend Joker without causing innocent people to be harmed, which was the completely opposite course of events the Joker had intended.
He did not mean to actually kill Two-Face when he tackled him, but merely meant to overpower him and lost control in the scuffle. Seeing as how an innocent life was at stake, Batman simply acted on reflex to protect the innocent Gordon's son and miscalculated the amount of strength necessary to take on Two-Face, leading to his death. The Joker: It lands on the "heads" side and Two-Face allows him to live.
Detective Wuertz: It lands on the "tails" side and Two-Face shoots him. Salvatore Maroni: It lands on the "heads" side and Two-Face spares him. Maroni's Driver: It lands on the "tails" side, Two-Face shoots him and because Maroni didn't have a seat belt on it can be assumed Maroni was killed in the crash.
Detective Ramirez: It lands on the "heads" side, Two-Face punches her in the face apparently knocking her out and she is never seen or heard from again.
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